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«Ripskin · Oct 05, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Well with the current state GW is in...

I read so many people whining about the state of guild wars, but I never see a problem with it.

Karyuu · Oct 05, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I too completely fail to understand how WoW is better than GW, especially with people complaining about GW supposedly no longer catering to casual players. You guys do realize what kind of gameplay WoW is most heavy on, right?

«Ripskin · Oct 05, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

I too completely fail to understand how WoW is better than GW, especially with people complaining about GW supposedly no longer catering to casual players. You guys do realize what kind of gameplay WoW is most heavy on, right?

They think they're helping casual players, but, none of the actual casual players are here. Mainly because.. they're casual

Bryant Again · Oct 05, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by //RogueNine

Is that worse than WoW tho?

I'd say on-par. That's saying a lot since WoW is a PvE balanced game. They're both great fun, though.

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

I read so many people whining about the state of guild wars, but I never see a problem with it.

Gw PvP.

Karyuu · Oct 05, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Probably, although I consider myself casual

I do hear a lot of ruckus however, in the name of casual players, being brought forth by people who are anything but. It amuses me.

«Ripskin · Oct 05, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'd say on-par. That's saying a lot since WoW is a PvE balanced game. They're both great fun, though.

Gw PvP.

I pvp more often then pve.

Bryant Again · Oct 05, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

I pvp more often then pve.

I meant this: "Well, with the current state that GW PVP is in..."

//RogueNine · Oct 05, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I meant this: "Well, with the current state that GW PVP is in..."

TBH, like ripskin I dont really see this mentallity maybe as much as others do. I pvp a decent amount and keep current with the meta in most different types. With the exception of gimmicky crap in HA and RA/TA.. most pvp seems to be pretty skill reliant. GvG for example.. the top teams ussually arent winning because of gimmick crap, its because of balance, skill and teamwork.

When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc. Specing out your character was even more cookie cutter than alot of GW builds if you wanted to have a good set up.

Explain to me how a system that was set up for PvP is worse than a system that is 'balanced' for PvE (and I will question how it is balanced.. I seem to remember alot of whining about certain classes in WoW)

«Ripskin · Oct 05, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I don't see any problem with the current state of pvp, but someone has to whine about something. Always.

Bryant Again · Oct 05, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by //RogueNine

When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc. Specing out your character was even more cookie cutter than alot of GW builds if you wanted to have a good set up.

Arena is a considerably enjoyable arena, mostly in 3v3-5v5. 2v2 is about as annoying as RA. Also in WoW, the skill is more about in how you play, not what your build is.

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Originally Posted by //RogueNine

Explain to me how a system that was set up for PvP is worse than a system that is 'balanced' for PvE (and I will question how it is balanced.. I seem to remember alot of whining about certain classes in WoW)

Refer to thread 2579382579.

Keep in mind that Blizz *does* balance PvP, but they have to be more careful because unlike GW, they can't be as careless to how the balances affect PvE*.

And people whine about losing to other classes because most people forget the fact that WoW PvP is balanced around teamplay.

*This isn't a bad thing. There is a much broader skill choice in GW than in WoW.

bart · Oct 05, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by //RogueNine

When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc.

If you haven't been playing WoW for the past year u probably don't know about Arena. You should give it a try before condemning WoW's PvP.

Mai · Oct 05, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).

aapo · Oct 05, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by Mai

Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).

- Wait a second... wow is not grind-based and GW is grind-based? I think you mixed those up.

Lafayette · Oct 05, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Clone

Voted Warhammer for first and Ragnarok for second. Grind Wars no longer gets my vote.

Indeed. And I haven't even played games similar to those I voted for.

Go StarCraft II though. ^^

«Ripskin · Oct 05, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Mai

Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).

I don't think it does, and yeah, you mixed that up.

Mai · Oct 05, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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Originally Posted by aapo

- Wait a second... wow is not grind-based and GW is grind-based? I think you mixed those up.

I meant Guild Wars. Remember the little sales slogan they pitched back in beta/prophecies? Skill over grind? Whatever happened to that? In WoW, you knew there was grind but who would've thought that WoW PvP (something that was pretty much tacked on) would be more interesting than Guild Wars. (A game that was designed for PvP)

I'll leave it at that.

kradens · Oct 05, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

GW1 pvp feels too static.

WoW pvp is frustratingly imba. little kids named "Oo Goku Oo" or "Naruto III I" with no lives and nothing else to do can outgear/level you easy as that.

im hoping GW2 is less stuck down to the ground like gw1. i think interactiveness with the environment will make all the difference. anet was right, by now, they really do have all the ideas to make the ultimate guildwars / mmo.

Thom Bangalter · Oct 05, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Watching bad guilds fight each other would make me really, really angry.

fenix · Oct 05, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Hahaha this thread got owned.

Btw, I voted Warhammer #1. It'll be a far better PvP game than GW is at the moment.

RhanoctJocosa · Oct 05, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by Mai

Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).

Um no.

It's pretty funny how noone is voting for GW.